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I'm not convinced that either of the Democratic front runners will do much to make life here in the U.S. better.

I do think that Obama is likely to be less warlike, and in particular to scale back the war. The choice of candidate may feel disgusting to those of us who wanted a real anti-war candidate or for that matter a real Democrat. However, I feel obligated to do what I can to reduce the horrible carnage overseas.

If my vote contributes to a few thousand less dead, raped, injured, homeless, and impoverished in other countries, it's worth it.

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Date: 2008-02-05 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gcrumb.livejournal.com
I think Obama means what he says, and it's clear he's got a very lively intellect. But you're absolutely right - he should never be mistaken for a liberal.

Is there, Howard Dean[*] excepted, a single 'real' Democrat in the US political pantheon?

Maybe we need to update that old blues song: Been Right so long it looks like Left to me.
[*] Dean, by the way, would be my main reason to vote Obama, if I could. Hillary would certainly bring Terry McAuliffe with her, and that man has been disastrous for the Democratic party. Dean's 50 state strategy - fighting the Republicans everywhere, all the time - is working.

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Date: 2008-02-05 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com
There was Kucinich, and he was immediately marginalized for being an actual American Liberal. Not that American Liberal is anything like a real leftist, but it's now the far let here.

Ted Kennedy is a real one, but he's 1 million years old.

pretty much everyone on this list is, and there are quite a few congress members, etc. so there is hope: http://adaction.org/staff.htm

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Date: 2008-02-05 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handstil.livejournal.com
I liked Kucinich but ya, no way.

I'm for Obama more than Hillary, which isn't much, but enough.

or something.

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