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CONCURRENCE.
Date: 2006-01-26 04:56 am (UTC)Re: CONCURRENCE.
Date: 2006-01-26 03:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 04:59 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 05:15 am (UTC)I'm not the only one!
Date: 2006-01-26 05:23 am (UTC)Also the neat food making machine thing that produced an ice cream sundae with the push of a button. You know?
Prophecy
Date: 2006-01-26 05:28 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:18 am (UTC)Futurey SHMUTUREY
Date: 2006-01-26 05:58 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 05:29 am (UTC)I do, however, blame progressives for completely failing to grok what the passing of the Fairness Doctrine meant and refusing to take up the long and the short and go to battle with the Wingnuts when it became clear what they were going to do with talk radio.
I remember back in 1988— 1988, fergawdzakes!— trying to get my lefty friends to pay attention to what Rush Limbaugh was doing and take seriously the threat his style of talk radio posed. It was more than ten years before I could get anyone to listen to me without laughing.
Being able to say "I told you so" is cold comfort.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:06 am (UTC)Loud, stupid, and chauvinistic: pick 3.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:52 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-27 07:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-27 08:12 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:00 am (UTC)Have you ever listened to The Thom Hartmann Radio Program?
http://www.thomhartmann.com/showlisten.shtml
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:10 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:19 am (UTC)I can definitely see why you'd feel that way about talk radio, especially "conservative" talk radio.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:36 am (UTC)There's nothing new under the sun.
Date: 2006-01-26 06:24 am (UTC)Re: There's nothing new under the sun.
Date: 2006-01-26 06:34 am (UTC)Re: There's nothing new under the sun.
Date: 2006-01-26 06:39 am (UTC)Re: There's nothing new under the sun.
Date: 2006-01-26 07:06 am (UTC)I think talk radio is both a symptom and a problem of a social decline. Talk radio is about yelling at people and abusing them and talking over them as a way of winning an argument. It's about dumping your empathy and hating as hard as you can. It's about never leaving your own point of view, even for a moment.
And 90% of the time it's about entitled rich white guys explaining to each other how much they deserve their entitlements, and how anyone who hasn't made it as big as they have is a loser, and how brown people in faraway countries are cool to kill. It's a bully pulpit for bullies, and it legitimizes the worst kind of behavior.
Yeah.
Date: 2006-01-26 04:27 pm (UTC)I don't like it either. Listening pisses me off. The tone of their speech does it. I pick up on the anger and it ruins my mood.
Re: There's nothing new under the sun.
Date: 2006-01-26 06:58 pm (UTC)Granted, there's a sight more channels to choose from now, and that shit's on most of them. But it's on message boards, too - and television - the late and unlamented crossfire springs to mind.
The cultural footprint of this kind of drek is both bigger and older than the Limbaughnnabies.
Re: There's nothing new under the sun.
Date: 2006-01-26 07:16 pm (UTC)Re: There's nothing new under the sun.
Date: 2006-01-26 07:26 pm (UTC)The Futurists would have loved it here. No secret they all went Fascist at the first opportunity.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:09 am (UTC)Of.
Date: 2006-01-26 08:16 am (UTC)Or they made the Zeitgeist do it!
Or it do made them Zeiggeist the!!!
I just want to bring Adam Smith back from the dead and have a frank discussion with him about the Invisible Cloven Hoof. Is that so wrong?
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 07:17 pm (UTC)I don't remember the punchline,
Date: 2006-01-26 09:05 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:17 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:26 am (UTC)Sooo....
Date: 2006-01-26 06:31 am (UTC)Re: Sooo....
Date: 2006-01-26 06:38 am (UTC)You're really on my ass now, and I know why. Why not be honest about it?
Re: Sooo....
Date: 2006-01-26 06:42 am (UTC)Re: Sooo....
Date: 2006-01-26 07:13 am (UTC)People listen all day long to chauvinistic, bigoted, self-justifying, entitled jerks who tell them that their worst impulses are really awesome and should be celebrated. They then repeat that crap to each other. And they act on it, and vote like it.
Re: Sooo....
Date: 2006-01-26 07:45 am (UTC)neverrrrrmind......
I really didn't mean to start a fight...
was just asking for elaboration on things....
thought it was kinna fun, for a while.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 08:23 am (UTC)Seriously though, after reading a bunch of books about stuff I didn't live through, I think a lot of the problems go back to the white middle class's reaction to the civil rights movement. The realignment of the political parties, exurbanization and disinvestment in the cities, the gutting of the New Deal, even the central problem you cite: the erosion of consensus and coarsening of our discourse. All of it. In the long run, being on the right side of history has cost a lot of good people very dearly.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 12:54 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 05:47 pm (UTC)Oh wait, maybe same thing.
(no subject)
Date: 2006-01-26 06:29 pm (UTC)Or, at least, I pretend to be on lj.