substitute: (me by hils)
[personal profile] substitute
Senator Chuck Grassley (R.-IA) wishes to pass a bill making credit card debt bankruptcy-proof, so that going through personal bankruptcy will not help those who have excessive card debt. Fairly standard big-money idea, and of course the credit card people are slavering for it.

Jeff points out that it's a bit worse than that, though. Senator Grassley is not just fiscally conservative. He's a fundamentalist Christian moral conservative who follows the strict evangelical line on gay marriage, abortion, sex in general, etc. But he won't apply any Christian principles to debt. A plea from a Christian attorneys group to consider the biblical arguments against usury falls on deaf ears. Why? Because Chuck doesn't want to mix government and religion! Why, that would be theocratic!

I can’t listen to Christian lawyers because I would be imposing the Bible on a diverse population,” Grassley said. “I’ll bet those lawyers wouldn’t want us to impose the principles of forgiving debt every seven years. If that were the law, nobody would loan them money.

Jeff's full story, which I recommend for anyone interested in the current "religious" conservatism, is here.

This in a nutshell is why I left the Christian community. Hypocrisy is always part of a religious experience. But the people in my country who call themselves Christians are so puffed up with false pride, so in love with money, so ready to spend others' lives for their own comfort, so hateful, so greedy, so imperial that to be an apostate is a great blessing to me.

We have met Antichrist, and it is us.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-03-08 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verminefasciste.livejournal.com
"I can’t listen to Christian lawyers because I would be imposing the Bible on a diverse population,” Grassley said. “I’ll bet those lawyers wouldn’t want us to impose the principles of forgiving debt every seven years. If that were the law, nobody would loan them money."

Er, I thought that was a Jew-derived thing? Forgiving debt every 7 years, I mean.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-03-08 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] predicate.livejournal.com
Yes, it is -- but so are the majority of the "deeply held moral principles" that conservative lawmakers like to pull out when it's time to push their constituents' hot buttons. Those folks are usually very keen on pointing out penalties for adulterers, pagans, fornicators, homosexuals, etc. They're also very quick to discard some of the Old Testament's curiously progressive provisions as outdated, irrelevant, or unrealistic. Completely redistributing land ownership every 50 years to prevent generational cycles of poverty? Nope. Wouldn't work. Leaving a percentage of every crop field behind at harvest time so the poor and unemployed can harvest it for themselves? Nope, that'd be a handout.

The New Testament folks are the ones who sold all their posessions, pooled their money, and formed a commune in Palestine. Er... well, perhaps we'll ignore that one, too...

Sorry. I'm just really pissed about this Grassley thing. Spitting mad. Grrrr.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-03-08 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verminefasciste.livejournal.com
Actually, that was very interesting to read. Thank you.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-03-08 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verminefasciste.livejournal.com
A lot of your interests are things I like, and we live in close proximity, at least as far as the Internets go. I'm going add you to my flist. Reciprocate if you want, or not.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-03-08 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] predicate.livejournal.com
Sure -- glad you found the micro-rant interesting. *grin* Although my livejournal is pretty much mothballed now, I post at the blog that substitute pointed to: http://jeff.viapositiva.net.

Someone has syndicated the feed for it as the lj user 'vp_jeff' if you're interested in subscribing in the friends list.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-03-08 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verminefasciste.livejournal.com
I've added both. Cheers.

Profile

substitute: (Default)
substitute

May 2009

S M T W T F S
      1 2
3 456 78 9
10111213141516
17181920212223
24252627282930
31      

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags