Critical Thinking: Don't get a Prius.
May. 12th, 2008 02:26 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
The hybrid car is a lie. Do not purchase one.
- The only reason the hybrid car exists is to allow auto manufacturers to continue selling grossly wasteful and polluting vehicles to consumers. Because California law requires an overall emissions target and minimum quantity of zero emissions vehicles, a manufacturer has to sell hybrid or electric powered vehicles in order to continue selling large commercial trucks to consumers as toys, and other sins.
- Purchasing a hybrid vehicle pays off the owner's conscience in the best American way: with a unique product. The buyer feels a sense of moral superiority, the seller makes some money, and the essential problem continues. It's no wonder the name of the most popular one sounds like "pious."
- Buying a hybrid car means buying a new car. Don't buy a new car. It's true that as your hybrid car runs it will put less direct pollutant material in the air and water. It's also true that it will use less gasoline. However, you have just bought a very large machine which was manufactured new. Add up the steel and aluminum, the machining and casting of parts, the chemicals used and dumped, the nonrenewable resources consumed or used to build the car, all the energy used to build a car and carry its materials around, the energy used to move the car around by ship and truck to the dealer, all of it. Making a car is a very top heavy resource-hungry industrial process.
And your car doesn't go away. Unless you have it artfully crushed into a cube as a coffee table, or personally supervise its recycling, your car is sold to another person and stays on the road. And that person's car is sold down the line too, until we arrive at unusable or junked cars, which then go to a graveyard to be broken down. Everything about the car is toxic too, just in case you're curious.
So now you've brought a new car into the world (they'll make more!) and given a nice big fat gut punch to Mother Nature in doing so. Failure. - Keep your old car instead. If it's not so run down that the mileage is shot, and it's passing the emissions tests, it's a better deal for "the planet" and for you also. It is not as demonstrative of your love for the GREEN GAIA to continue with your serviceable older car, but trust me, she appreciates it.
- nstead, do things that don't burn fuel, or burn less. If you're physically able, ride a bike more to short drives. Use public transit. Even in Southern Californian Heck, where I live, I can (and now I do) take the train into Los Angeles when I am able.
- It will be a great day for this country when Americans can look at a serious problem and do something other than pick up a lifestyle magazine and look for some product guides. Buying things is a terrible solution to so many things.
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Date: 2008-05-12 09:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-05-12 09:41 pm (UTC)ME WALK TO WORK AND HAVE 12 YEAR OLD CAMRY THAT DOES 33MPG IN CITY.
preachin to the choir, son.
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Date: 2008-05-12 09:53 pm (UTC)All that said, do you know where I can have my old car artfully crushed down into a cube as a coffee table? Hopefully, some of that steel will be recycled, because I'd really rather not try to lift 1800 lbm of repurposed Mazda Miata into my living room.
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Date: 2008-05-12 10:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-05-12 09:54 pm (UTC)hey, TOTALLY UNRELATED, but I think I'm gonna open up a furniture store in San Francisco - you want in?
I'm glad I didn't get a Prius.
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Date: 2008-05-12 10:30 pm (UTC)i like that icon of you. it's how I want my life to be.
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Date: 2008-05-14 01:16 am (UTC)Also then there will be a Leah at each one. hi!
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Date: 2008-05-12 10:18 pm (UTC)imoportedimported bicycles. And that's not just my Brompton lust talking.(no subject)
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From: (Anonymous) - Date: 2008-05-13 04:21 pm (UTC) - Expandyo soy
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Date: 2008-05-12 11:27 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-05-12 11:34 pm (UTC)I want to buy vouchers that allow me to find and brutally beat TerraPass purchasers. It's what the market wants; it has to happen.
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Date: 2008-05-13 01:28 am (UTC)You can't buy the strategy you don't have
Date: 2008-05-13 04:40 am (UTC)It's true that there are other viable transit options in many situations...even in SoCal. And as peak oil, pollution, gridlock and personal finance become larger issues, we will probably see more people driving (oh crap, a pun) improvements to our transit systems and land use policies. We are already seeing hints of changes to the established way of thinking with the declining appeal of suburban life. The road worshipping philosophies of Robert Moses, at least up here in crunchy Seattle, are also becoming less and less common.
But until we have a system of commerce and transportation that supports these values, we have to deal with an infrastructure that was not developed with them in mind. And I wonder if the issue isn't knotted enough that blacklisting a vehicle, that pollutes less, because of a disingenuous manufacturer washes over some of that complexity.
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Date: 2008-05-13 04:25 pm (UTC)Re: The good is the enemy of the best
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Date: 2008-05-13 05:34 am (UTC)The good is the enemy of the best
Date: 2008-05-13 01:30 pm (UTC)http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080512170921AA2Btbz
Also, so far, it seems like that the Prius is well-made and reliable, and should last a long time. It's at least, if not more recyclable, than average car. I really wouldn't worry about the recycling issue for most of the car in general – there's a great market in scrap metal, and economic pressure that kind of reuse is only increasing.
Yes, it would be better if everybody could get around without a car, but even in the relatively dense and transit-friendly areas of the country, it's the only realistic strategy for getting around. It's going to take a while before transit networks and land-use patterns catch up with better arrangements.
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Date: 2008-05-13 11:57 pm (UTC)p2: the Hybrid Car was the Also Ran in the process.
But since you are trying to argue about a process, rather than a type of car, there are some deeper issues that will need to be addressed. This may be a great time to read Kevin Phillip's Bad Money (http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=9780670019076) as the "Peak Oil" meets the "global warming" trend is only a part of the problem that americans face, given the unwrapping of the FINANCIALIZATION of the american economy.
Unless americans want to back the 'winning side' in the 'resource wars' they may not be in a position to have the money to buy foreign made products that will no longer be shipped to the americans until they have a convertable currency accepted in the rest of the world.
So if Process is the Concern, maybe it is time to step back and really address the core process issues.
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Date: 2008-05-14 12:00 am (UTC)I don't see what's so hard about "stop buying products to stop a consumption problem" as a concept, though.
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Date: 2008-05-15 02:14 am (UTC)http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1951848/Paul-McCartney-'horrified'-as-his-eco-car-is-flown-7,000-miles-from-Japan.html
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Date: 2008-05-15 02:16 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-05-15 04:24 am (UTC)MAJOR WIN