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I am making spaghetti sauce. The recipe is a family one from before my birth, when my parents and big brother were living in Bologna. My brother's nanny, Isa, was a pretty serious cook.

It's a bolognese sauce of course, but I am making it with fake meat, so it's a nolognese, or perhaps spaghetti and neatballs.

The ingredients aren't any surprise: tomato, onion, spices, olive oil. The part I don't see so often is carrot, which is shredded or pureed and added for sweetness. This means that I don't have to add salt or something sweet to cut the acidity.

If I'm doing it for vegans or nondairy folks I omit Isa's last step: a tiny amount of milk at the end.

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Date: 2008-04-06 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handstil.livejournal.com
That sounds divine! I haven't thought to make vegan bolognese, but I will try this recipe out this week!
Is it all to taste or do you have a measurements recipe?

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Date: 2008-04-06 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com
Pretty much to taste. Today's was approx:

one chopped onion
handful of chopped "baby" carrots leftover
five tomatoes, which had been previously roasted, with their olive oil. otherwise, include 1/4 cup of decent olive oil.
teaspoon fennel seed
four or five green pepper corns
teaspoon oregano

blend the fuck out of the above. heat in pan until bubbling, then simmer one hour, covered. this varies due to taste and your ideal of thickness. tomato paste can be added if the pink color annoys you.

add the "meat" and simmer at least 30 minutes more. be careful not to run out of liquid

bloop of milk after the heat is off

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Date: 2008-04-06 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handstil.livejournal.com
Thanks!
What's your favorite olive oil? I bought the Newman's Own last time :( I've been trying a different brand each time. I like a really strong flavor and haven't found one I'm crazy about.

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Date: 2008-04-06 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com
The one I like right now is DeLallo Organic Extra Virgin Unfiltered. It's not too expensive and it's got a really great bite. Not for any kind of frying, because the smoke point must be very low with the unfiltered etc. But mmmmm.

There are pricier ones I like but I use so much I can't really afford that shit, you know?

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Date: 2008-04-06 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] handstil.livejournal.com
We use a metric buttload of it, it's like crack for me. I dump it on everything, including my skin and hair.

I don't think I've used unfiltered at all before. AOOoh, adventures!

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Date: 2008-04-06 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salome-st-john.livejournal.com
Next time I drive, if either of you ever want me to bring some fancy yummy olive oil down from the Berkeley farmers' market (I think it's organic but I'm not sure), lemme know...

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Date: 2008-04-06 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salome-st-john.livejournal.com
I think "bloop" is the best measurement ever.

Also do you ever brown the meat first?

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Date: 2008-04-06 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com
Also do you ever brown the meat first?

I do if it's real meat. The fake meat is so sticky and hard to handle that I just slash it into chunks and fling it in.

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Date: 2008-04-06 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salome-st-john.livejournal.com
We are totally writing a cookbook together.

bloops and chunks, slashing and flinging: COOK WITH THE STARS

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Date: 2008-04-06 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotelsamurai.livejournal.com
And flavorwhacking!

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Date: 2008-04-06 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotelsamurai.livejournal.com
Four or five green peppercorns... is that enough to give it flavor?

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Date: 2008-04-06 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] salome-st-john.livejournal.com
T SUBSTITUTE WHY HAVE YOU NEVER MADE THIS FOR ME I DEMAND

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Date: 2008-04-06 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com
Whenever I make a comfort food dish for a friend it COMES OUT WRONG. I can't even make mac 'n' cheese for anyone else. It's so weird.

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Date: 2008-04-06 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amicablebitch.livejournal.com
i'm glad to see there are carrots in an authentic sauce.

my stripper-in-law claims that spaghetti sauce shouldn't have carrots. she says carrots are apparently something you put in when you don't have anything else to put in. she of course directed this comment at my mother's spaghetti sauce, which has carrots in it (and is a very old recipe that she got from someone else). now i can be like "well, ACTUALLY..."

i really didn't care one way or another about the carrots, they never bothered me. but i don't take well to her acting like my mother's spaghetti sauce is SO wrong, and acting like that reflects badly on my mother (when it wasn't even her recipe). and just in general she always acts like she's an expert on everything, when she's actually pretty dumb about everything.

that's of course more information than you care to know.

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Date: 2008-04-06 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com
Italian-american food is one of those things where everyone assume that their own family recipe is THE AUTHENTIC ONE. I just like this one. It did come from an actual Italian, but I hear there are several of those!

Also I like the phrase "stripper-in-law."

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Date: 2008-04-06 01:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eris-devotee.livejournal.com
wow, your stripper-in-law is a n00b. There are as many ways to make pasta gravy as there are towns in Italy.

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Date: 2008-04-06 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amicablebitch.livejournal.com
yeah. i'll never understand how someone who failed out of college somehow determined they were an expert on everything.

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Date: 2008-04-06 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotelsamurai.livejournal.com
I like the idea of carrots as a sweetener. I have had sauces that needed to be sweeter, but I can't bring myself to use sugar.

I have a friend, Guy, who swears unsweetened bakers' chocolate is just the thing to give depth and velvetiness to tomato sauce. I haven't tried it myself, though. Further research is needed.

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Date: 2008-04-06 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stimps.livejournal.com
I use a plonk of chocolate in chili usually... either a cut up chunk or some really fine fine drinking chocolate. Mmmmm.

something about bitter stuff

Date: 2008-04-06 07:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com
There was a BBQ sauce recipe I liked that started with coffee, too. Bitter is good, bitter is our friend.

Re: something about bitter stuff

Date: 2008-04-06 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stimps.livejournal.com
Mmmmm... I have made that sauce. So good! I love interesting BBQ sauces, but I fail to make them often enough. Smack stimpy!

Re: something about bitter stuff

Date: 2008-04-06 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eris-devotee.livejournal.com
I've had stew where the meat was marinated in a concentrated coffee glaze (with onion & something vaguely minty... fennel, maybe?).

Re: something about bitter stuff

Date: 2008-04-06 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotelsamurai.livejournal.com
Once I had a BBQ sauce that was too thin and acidic. So, in a flash of inspiration, I gave it some iced tea to velvet it up, and it worked like a charm.

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Date: 2008-04-06 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stimps.livejournal.com
This sounds greatttttttt. The way I usually sweeten things up is to cook the onions low and long, with a little balsamic vinegar. Mmmmm. Caramelly!

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Date: 2008-04-07 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] threepunchstuff.livejournal.com
The lead character in Half Nelson used carrots in the spaghetti sauce for his dinner date. This was where I first saw this done. Later he tried to rape the woman.
From: [identity profile] threepunchstuff.livejournal.com
Kick in the nuts, I think. Later a precocious black girl taught him something of value about the subject of redemption. Incidentally the same girl who helped him mash the tomatoes and grate the carrots for aforementioned sauce.

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