Dear LazyMailWeb: Why does Yahoo hate freedom?

[substitute]

Is there any way of getting off Yahoo's email greylist? In the last year all mail from my domain has been delivered at their leisure or maybe never with a 421 Deferred bounce that points to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html

When I try to make use of that page, it send me to a nonexistent url that rewrites to their consumer Yahoo! mail help page. Some searching about on the web reveals that they "deprioritize" people who aren't either big well-known ISPs or dialup, and that there's no way to get off this list that anyone can find; it's Kafka's castle.

I've never relayed spam. Can I assume that they just don't know or care what the difference is between joe-job bounces and spamming? It looks from what I see like if you get on that list, it's just over for you.

The situation is made even more "wonderful" because some friends of mine don't have explicit Yahoo! email but rather have business email done through them, so that I can't even tell which email addresses aren't going to work properly.

Comments

[brianenigma.livejournal.com]

Does the domain you are trying to send from/for have the right DNS mojo for "this IP address can send email for me?" I know one is SFP, but there are also one or more others. I don't know which one Yahoo follows, but having the correct DNS stuff might up your chances of actually getting mail through.

[substitute.livejournal.com]

They seem to like DKIM which I don't have and which is a pain in the ass. I have SPF. There's no guarantee that they'll honor DKIM. They just seem to "like" it.

freedom is cost-inefficient

[dreamyshade.livejournal.com]

hmm. did you try this help form? (note that it's not working for me in safari, but firefox is fine.) if you bug customer care about this a bit and nothing happens, let me know and i can try to find the right y! mail person to pester.

Re: freedom is cost-inefficient

[substitute.livejournal.com]

I filled that out two months ago and got a form letter response.

Re: freedom is cost-inefficient

[dreamyshade.livejournal.com]

hmm. what's the domain that has the issue? (and any other relevant details?) i'll email somebody and see what they say.

Re: freedom is cost-inefficient

[substitute.livejournal.com]

fringehead.org
64.81.85.145 is the address they seem to... deprioritize.