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substitute) wrote2006-08-21 11:46 pm
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snarks on a plane
Five years of a blog that runs about 70% snark and grump, maybe more. I complain too much on the Internet, and it's bad for my writing. Occasionally I catch myself and write a happy piece about kittens or Chinese dumplings or a really stellar masturbation session. But a gloomy Andy Rooney/James Lileks atmosphere threatens. It's a flaw, and I'm surprised that's not pointed out more.
Most of the time, though, my small and friendly readership either agrees, suggests a different yet sympathetic angle, or clears the buffer and moves on. I don't get a lot of "oh hell no" or "you bastard, you pissed on my dream" reactions.
And then there was that time I dissed the Snakes on a Plane astroturf ad campaign, and found out there are still people who care enough to stand up forJesus calculated viral marketing!
Most of the time, though, my small and friendly readership either agrees, suggests a different yet sympathetic angle, or clears the buffer and moves on. I don't get a lot of "oh hell no" or "you bastard, you pissed on my dream" reactions.
And then there was that time I dissed the Snakes on a Plane astroturf ad campaign, and found out there are still people who care enough to stand up for
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~M~
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The snakes thing, I understand why it's posed such a problem in so many venues of discussion. Even when the commentator is careful to be nuanced and civil, no one wants to think they're foolish for being momentarily amused by something fleeting, that they've been had and the joke's on them, that their passing amusement is a tacit endorsement of certain manipulative and immoral social forces. Even if it's true.
A possible solution is to conclude such posts with "...I'll probably end up seeing it anyway, though." Then the joke is on all of us together!
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QUALIFIED MORALITY - FUUUCK YEAH!
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The thing that pissed me off, and the thing I talked about, was the hook itself, which a huge number of people happily embedded in themselves and then went around showing off to their friends, like: hey, check me out! I got the Nike logo tattooed on my ass, because it's a viral internet meme catchphrase like all the cool kids have! And that part is still just kinda typical, because just about everyone wears logo t-shirts or some shit like that.
The awesomely horrible part is that these people believed they MADE this thing, and that they were cool members of the special kids club because they were part of the magic.
Best unpaid street team ever!
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The only slightly-less-offputting way to lay out the damage would be to shift the blame to the marketing people at New Line, who were, as they say, motherfucking smart. Smart at lying.
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It's OK for people to like crap.
one more time...
My target is astroturf "viral" marketing. The target is not inexpensive, cheesy horror movies. Thank you for reading.
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What quite a few people chose to read was "If you see and enjoy this movie you're an asshole," although I didn't say that.
Hey, Isn't Anyone Going to Encourage His Self Destruction?
I feel superior because I read your journal.
The tone is fine. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a copy editor or something.
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I wasn't targeting you in the entry I wrote though dude, your position in re: that movie is itself a viral - how many weeks has the bandwagon-of-backlash been the bloggin' rage? several
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Viral marketing, though, is pernicious in a way regular marketing is not: it's astroturf, which is a lie on top of a lie - it seems to come from below, from the grassroots, from "the fans," when it really doesn't - either the grassroots aspect is wholly faked or the studio is simply using the fans as a culture medium for a marketing script that has already been written. I mean, people were under the illusion that they had some sort of effect on the way that narrative played out, that they had some sort of 'ownership' over the movie, but that was just a lie. Then the 'fans' worked on behalf of that lie, unpaid, in the apparent illusion that this was actually a product of the culture, rather than the culture industry. It's rather sad, when you look at it that way.
Of course, the difference between this sort of viral marketing and what we regularly refer to as 'fandom' - for example, my FL is full of people wailing about that Stargate TV show today - is now impossible to pin down. Which sucks for fans, because they're selling their souls to the culture industry for an illusion of participation. I think the erosion of that distinction is the fault of viral marketing, actually - there is no longer any distinction to be made between marketing, fandom, and 'indie cred.' These terms all mean the same thing now. And that's a calamity that was imposed from above.
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I hadn't seen that particular blogwagon go by, since I read either the wrong or the right people depending on your view, but I'm not surprised. I bet a lot of it is reviews of the movie by people who haven't seen it, in the fine internet tradition. That's not my interest.
And I also disagree with your assessment of viral versus traditional marketing. I think the opposite. "Plain vanilla" marketing is crap like "Diet Coke and Trojan Condoms are teaming up to bring you this weekend's premiere of Garfield 2! Visit your nearest 7-11 to get free tickets and sign up for the Trojans Turgid Summer of Fun!" There it is, right in your face: marketing.
Viral marketing is the advertising equivalent of Amway. Your friend posts his totally awesome Snakes on a Plane quiz and you do it too, because you socially identify with your friend, and then your friends do it too, and you're all enjoying the warm bath of shared in-joke... working for someone else.
At this point I have to admit defeat. I clearly blew it getting my point across, because loads of smart nice people heard something other than what I was communicating.
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I think your commentary on society is usually spot on, but as you posted in another message, you have been taking some anger buildup and kind of using Snark as a way to expunge that anger out of your body. By posting that anger-riddled snark into a place where dozens of people read, you are bound to get people who are also having "off days" too. The people of the Internet, having the luxury of not having to look other people in the eye forget to bite their tongue when exposed to this. So I'm not surprised in the least that there was a mixed response. I think the response is magnified due to the meaninglessness of the subject at hand (Snakes on a Plane.) Had the snarkiness been about Bush or the War in the Middle East or something, I doubt there'd have been much of a response.
Either way, like I said, I usually think you're spot on with your snarkiness, I just hope that it isn't creating fuel to your anger fire. I hope you can let it out, let it go, and move forward.
If nothing else, at least you aren't trying to market your anger/snark ala those stupid fucks at Gawker that think they are journalists.
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Personally, I believe it was our ability to do this that allowed us to survive high school.
I say it's time to leave the impression that with very little provocation you will vaporize every impure thing that crosses your field of vision with the outrageous power of your contempt... leave the safety off.
But that's just me...
mojo sends
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Anyway, your post reminds me that I'm doing my part to mock the vapid and facile viral marketing posers, and I should absolutely start engaging in a viral self-promotion campaign to market the product.
"Hello, my name is LEGION," indeed.
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i understand that you weren't addressing me in your anti-soap post. i saw that you were speaking to the months-obsessed endless-posting soap fanatics. but i have to agree here that the tone of it was rather more sweeping; personally it set off my "i don't like this because i'm above it" attitude alarm.
i usually agree with you; i think you reason things out well, you're well spoken and you are familiar with what you discuss. i think you are right in saying that the tone of the post was probably brewed with your mood of late. but yeah, it was snarky... even if in point it was right.
s'ok, though; i know what you meant. :)
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Quite a few people have instructed me that one is supposed to apologize in advance for disliking a pop culture phenomenon, or pretend to like it just like everyone else while criticizing it, which is awfully puzzling to me. It's as though I had insulted someone's religion or nationality. When I actually do insult religions and nationalities hardly anyone is upset!
I don't care for giggly blaxploitation or post-ironic "bad is good," or viral marketing, or some other things about that whole SoaP phenomenon. I dislike those things esthetically and I also dislike what they represent.
Maybe someone else doesn't share my appreciation of cheesy mid 1970s folk-rock or The Great Race. Cool. I'm not going to go chasing them around the halls of the Internet telling them they're pretentious fucks who really DO like what I do, and have no right to be so snarky about it. It's taste.
The most depressing thing about this whole adventure, for me, is that in a world soaked with blood, starving, ridden with disease and violent injustice, and staggering on the edge of Permanent Doom, the only way to get the people around me upset about anything is to diss the currently popular entertainment trend of the month. The motherfuckin' snakes, it appears, have fuckin' won.